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Device Overview

Name/Version: Grids for Max for Live 1.3
Author: mots  
Description: Grids ( is a topographic drum sequencer module from Mutable Instruments.

This device is a port of the Eurorack version to M4L. Most of the original manual ( ) applies, with exception to of course cv inputs, clock in, tap tempo and such thing which do not make sense in a DAW.

Make sure to automate the parameters with automation or with a max4live LFO, that is where the fun begins !

License : released under GPL 3.0

Device Details

Downloads: 5711
Tags drum, sequencer
Live Version Used: 9.1.5
Max Version Used: 6.1.8
Date Added: Sep 21 2014 04:23:08
Date Last Updated: Oct 13 2015 14:01:22
Average Rating (5) 5
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Device Type: midi_device
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Device Files

Device File: Grids.amxd


This looks awesome, but I think something is missing from the download.

updated the device. note this is a work in progress for the moment. euclidian mode is not extactly working as it should just yet. and there are some bugs here and there.

comments/help welcome !

Thanks for sharing!

This is great. THANK YOU.

There seem to be some sync issues but I'm hoping they can easily be resolved.

This is brilliant! I'm really looking forward to the update!

Thank you so much! Excellent.

Device doesn't save changed notes in 9.1.1. Could you fix it?
Thank you in advance!

Hi minikin !

this is fixed now. thanks for the report

Hi Mots,

Thanks a lot! Really love this device.

permanent home in my performance template. Wonderful!
Q: Did the original Grids transition to other meters, or remain in 4/4?
The Euclidean toggle is greatly appreciated btw.

Looking forward to checking this new code.

One thing that might be nice is if the main and accent toggles were visible to midi range. That way a single button could either go through a range of combinations or the same assignment could toggle the acc and mains entirely, effectively allowing an alternative kit or just an accented fill. I find that unless Im just beefing up the same hits and Ive found a really nice pocket for the sound, the accent button doubles up the mains even on the downbeat and gets a bit overplayed.

Still nothing short of brilliant

hi Brilliant, not sure what you mean, but i think what you mean, is changing midi note and on/off with on button press.
i suppose that does not belong in grids and should rather be done in another max4live device.

Plus you can always assign the button press in midi using the normal methods.

I have a little bugglet: When you use the skin DISCO you cannot see the note numbers as you are changing them. Other skins do not have the problem.

Hi Mots,
Looking forward to the update.
What I meant by the range, was in the MIDI assignment list in Ableton, due to my own M4L incompetence, I can't invert the range on the main acc buttons. If I could, one button could instead of adding a fill pad, could replace the mains with the fills entirely.

Unless, I'm intentionally doubling up a kick for example,
I find that having the fill on for the pattern at all times sounds pretty exhausting for most sounds. In part, I think this is because the fill is also adding to the down beats, and is being evaluated every single measure (so it accents a bit more than an occasional fill.)

I'd rather give myself two separate 3-piece kits entirely by toggling a button (all toms for example) and use the alternate set as a fill, not an accent.

I keep writing "fill". I mean your ACC

Braduro - you might feel less fatigue on the accent if you setup your drum rack to use choke groups:

I like that idea, herrprof. I've never tried to apply it on a drum rack.
Good to hear from you

Hi there,

patch doesn't seem to be working correctly in Live 9.2 with Max7 - just wondering if this is me or something to do with the update? Really interested in trying this out if possible - thanks!

The issue is I don't seem to be getting varying midi data when turning the dials to get different patterns or fills.


hi just tried. and it worked for me. i have live 9.2.2 and max7.

not sure what it could be


Always a pleasure to see this very worthy device getting a new wave of attention.
I'm curious: what is the resolution of patterns on the x/y grid? I tried a more critical listen and it seems like both axis go through just a few boundaries where the rhythm changes; maybe 4 to 6 each. Is that correct? So there really is a fairly finite (16 to 36 or so) resulting rhythms that cover any quadrant of the grid. Would that be the story?

i could check the code again, but if i am not wrong it continously morph between a few points on each axis. if recall correctly 4 or 5.

Thanks for the quick reply, will give it another go.

Oh man, now that I'm recounting it, there's well over a dozen stages that the point is either traveling along the x or y, not just 5 or 6. Couple that with changing the occurrences of kick/snare/HH along with the chaos knob, and there's a banquet of resulting rhythms...

I love this device! It works perfect on my Windows 8.1 laptop running live 9.5, however it is crashing live on my Windows 7 (Home Premium) laptop when running in "drums" mode, but not in "euclid" mode (obviously not very helpful for creating drum patterns). Any insight or suggestions would be much appreciated! Thanks again for this device.


my trial licence of visual studio expired. so i cannot re-build it. anymore :/ shame.

if someone wants to give it a shout, feel free ! the code is on github.

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