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Name/Version: TB-3 Remote 1.11
Author: Protonica  
Description: TB-3 Remote 1.1 by Protonica
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+ Connect your Roland AIRA TB-3 directly into Ableton Live
+ Edit all sound parameters from the plug-in (even the "hidden" ones like Tune or Modulation/Effect 2)
+ Load and save patches in Ableton
+ Precise automation & modulation of all sound parameters
+ Total recall: When you open your Live Project, all the saved values are automatically sent to your TB-3 hardware
+ If you edit any knob/touch pad from your TB-3 hardware, you can see it moving directly from the plugin
+ Send patches from the plugin to your TB-3 edit buffer and save them to your User bank
+ Perfect for using Ableton's sequencer for more flexibility
+ Auto Update of current values on a Program Change (this is helpful if you just want to change the Waveform/Oscillators of a program, and not the whole sound)
+ Low CPU usage

INSTALL / SETUP
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1 Download "TB-3 by Protonica.amxd" to your hard drive
2 Copy "TB-3 by Protonica.amxd" to your Ableton User Library: Ableton/User Library/Presets/MIDI Effects/Max MIDI Effect
3 Now you can find this plug-in in Ableton's Browser ("Max for Live" > "Max MIDI Effect")
4 Drop "TB-3 by Protonica.amxd" on a MIDI track in Ableton Live
5 Drop an "External Instrument" to the right of it. Set the MIDI and Audio routings according to your setup. ("MIDI To" = Ch. 2)
6 Open Ableton Preferences and check the MIDI Page.
- MIDI Port Input activate: "Track" and "Remote".
- MIDI Port Output activate: "Track", "Remote" and "Sync" ("Sync" can be turned off when you use Ableton's MIDI Clips to play the TB-3)
7 Settings on your hardware:
- Connect 2 MIDI cables to the MIDI Input and MIDI Output from the TB-3 to your Audio/MIDI Interface or use USB
- MIDI Channel: 2 (Default)
- MIDI Clock Source (Pad C): On
- MIDI Thru (Pad D): Off
- MIDI Local: On

CURRENT LIMITATIONS (due to Roland's TB-3 Firmware 1.10)
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- Scatter works only at TB-3 internal Patterns
- Program Change Messages are not received (but can be sent from the Plug-In)
- Volume and Pitch (XY Pad) works only on transmitted MIDI Notes

VERSION HISTORY
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1.11 Parameters are sorted to easy access on Ableton Push, touchAble etc.

REQUIREMENTS
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+ Roland AIRA TB-3 (make sure you have the Firmware 1.10 installed)
+ Ableton Live with Max for Live
+ Mac or PC

Developed by Piet Kaempfer (Protonica) in Berlin.
 

Device Details

Downloads: 3862
Tags utility, hardware
Live Version Used: 9.1.2
Max Version Used: 6.1.7
Date Added: Jul 27 2014 18:05:09
Date Last Updated: Aug 21 2014 17:41:57
Average Rating (4) 5
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Device Type: midi_device
URL (optional): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-laxQpwThow
License (more info): AttributionNonCommercialNoDerivatives

Device Files

Device File: TB-3 by Protonica.amxd
 


Comments

Great plugin, thanx for sharing.

One minor thinghy, maybe adjust the follow numbers off the parameters so when you see it on Push, reso is next to the cuttof instead on a second bank.

For the rest, really nice!

Good point Kibosh!
I just updated it to 1.11. At the moment I don't have Push here but checked on touchAble.
This is how the order looks like:

Page 1:
1. Tuning
2. Cutoff
3. Reso
4. Env Mod
5. Decay
6. Accent
7. Effect 1
8. Effect 2

Page 2:
1. Volume
2. Pitch
3. SC Type
4. Scatter
5. Accents
6. Slide

am having a hard time using abletons sequencer to sequence tb-3, do i need to be on an empty patter in tb-3 ?

thank you for this plug in !
Gabriel

Gabriel, check if you have installed the latest firmware (1.10). So the TB-3 understands "Slides" (overlapping notes/legato). When sequencing with Ableton turn off the Midi-Clock-Sync in the preferences (or use an empty tb-3 pattern).

Hi guys, I need some help: I'm trying to connect my TB-3 with Ableton live 9 via usb, but it doesn"t works. I have the TB-3 drive, I receive a midi signal from my TB-3 but there is not sound: and then, when I open the Ableton, it says that there is a problem with Rewire software. Do you guys have any idea? Thanks

thx!!

Hiiilfeee...
Hab das tb 3 ?ber usb angeschlossen..
Die regler im plugin bewegen sich nicht wen ich am tb 3 drehe. Ist das normal? Wen nicht was ist mein problem?
Danke f?r eure hilfe.
gruss kay



Did the tb 3 connected via usb ..
The controller in the plugin do not move whom I turn on tb 3. Is this normal? Who do not know what my problem is?
Thank you for your help.
greeting kay

I'm only using the TB-3 DAW via USB. TB-3 plays and stops as I play and stop Ableton, Moreover I routed the audio to the TB-3 audio so I get a combined TB-3/Ableton Audio from the TB-3 headphone.

Can I use your plugin via the TB-3 DAW only (No MIDI CABLES)? I've tried various MIDI and Externat instruments settings but I cannot affect the TB-3?? Many thanks

Update: TB-3 DAW works fine - Without MIDI cables. Volume not working but other:s Cutoff, Env work great..thnaks

Ronald rulz !! 8-) thx

This is so good. Thanks!!!

I am looking for a way to record the transpose event that changes the root note in a pattern via midi, so I can play it back with ableton and edit the other parameters live, rather than record the actual bass notes in the midi track. Is there a way to do this?

@ pompousjohn no, as far as I know transpositions can not be recorded or transmitted from/to the tb-3 sequencer. as a workaround you could record a pattern into an ableton clip and use the "pitch" midi effect from ableton. or dublicate the clips and transpose it manually.

@ protonica thanks for the reply, that is what I suspected - thanks. I can stop wondering why I can't find it now.


I have a problem I can not encotrar the Ableton / User Library folder could guide me please

This device was working perfectly until yesterday, hopefully you can help!

When I automate any of the parameters and have it in a gradual increase on the filter for example, the tb-3 starts acting strange. The sound slows down and doesn't get back to normal until a few bars after the automation curve has finished and returned to the value it was before the curve.

If I use the draw tool and have little short changes there aren't any issues.

I've checked with both ableton and Roland, who both suggested I contact you as it sounds like a midi feedback loop is happening.

I sometimes get the same issue when automating 2 parameters at once.

This device was working perfectly until yesterday, hopefully you can help!

When I automate any of the parameters and have it in a gradual increase on the filter for example, the tb-3 starts acting strange. The sound slows down and doesn't get back to normal until a few bars after the automation curve has finished and returned to the value it was before the curve.

If I use the draw tool and have little short changes there aren't any issues.

I've checked with both ableton and Roland, who both suggested I contact you as it sounds like a midi feedback loop is happening.

I sometimes get the same issue when automating 2 parameters at once.

@kennycampbell

Yes this might be caused by a feedback loop. To avoid Midi Feedback Loops I added the "sequencer" button. This way it filteres Midi data. If you run a Midi-clip from Ableton to play the TB-3 you have to choose "Ableton" and vice versa.

Piet

@Piet

I have it set as ableton as the sequencer, only just started to happen as well. Strange!

Kenny

Maybe worth adding, I don't have midi coming back in from the tb3, just audio

This is averry great Tool.
But if you want more :

The TB-3 has much more sounds than is visible on the surface.
"TB-3 EFX.Remote" is a Midi software editor for PC / Mac / iOS.

You can make changes to make the hidden settings and save it in the User Presets U01- U15 .

Info Home: http: //tb3remote.jimdo.com

Greeting, Momo

Hello this is a great look and working device... except for one thing: when I play back a recorded midi clip from the TB-3, it sounds nothing like the original pattern (sound). I have done what you suggest: 1. either turn off SYNC in the output midi properties, OR 2. use an empty pattern in the TB-3.

I have also changed the local midi on/off setting and stopped the sequencer from running in the TB-3 while I trigger Ableton clip.
I've also toggled your Ableton/TB-3 sequencer button in your device.

So far nothing is giving me a clean sounding pattern from the clip.
Any ideas?



Hello this is a great look and working device... except for one thing: when I play back a recorded midi clip from the TB-3, it sounds nothing like the original pattern (sound). I have done what you suggest: 1. either turn off SYNC in the output midi properties, OR 2. use an empty pattern in the TB-3.

I have also changed the local midi on/off setting and stopped the sequencer from running in the TB-3 while I trigger Ableton clip.
I've also toggled your Ableton/TB-3 sequencer button in your device.

So far nothing is giving me a clean sounding pattern from the clip.
Any ideas?



***when I play back a recorded midi clip from Ableton- it should read

***when I play back a recorded midi clip from Ableton- it should read

Hello LACONIC,

1) please make sure to have TB-3 Firmware 1.10 installed.
2) use Sequencer mode "TB-3" for recording and Sequence mode "Ableton" for playback.
3) Stop the TB-3 sequencer after recording.

Since the Firmware update 1.10 introduced note accents (velocity over 100) & note slides (legato notes) you can delete the recorded accent & slide events in Ableton's Envelopes section.
Furthermore when you record Midi clips, Ableton will record all knob movements twice. In the recorded clip you can delete the dublicate events.

I would love to be able to use this editor but I've followed all your instructions and it just doesn't work. Has it been tested with Live 9.6? I've set the TB-3 up as instructed, dropped a MIDI track instance in with External instrument dropped to the right of it, all the MIDI and audio settings are correct I can hear sound but the editor can be controlled by Push but it has no effect on the TB-3

Can you help please?

Hello,

Can this device work when the TB-3 is plugged-in an MX-1 ?

Thx.

Hello Piet,

awesome device! except only one thing: kennycampbell explained it already...

"When I automate/modify any of the recorded parameters ableton and the tb-3 acting strange. The sound slows down and doesn't get back to normal until a few bars after the automation curve has finished and returned to the value it was before the curve."

"If I use the draw tool and have little short changes there aren't any issues."

Further the automation-lines greys out when playing back (even when nothing is done and the reactivation button in ableton is not orange...)

Have you any idea what this could be? thanks for your answer.

Best,
Ivo
(Live Version 9.7.2 - 64-bit for Mac)

Hello Ivo,

I assume it's a MIDI Buffer overload.
This can happen when you have heavy automations going on (e.g. sending over 6 automations simultaneously).
I recommend to check and delete the recorded automations in the MIDI Clips (check Envelopes -> MIDI Controllers) as well. Usually Ableton records doubled: automations in the arrangement and to a single MIDI Clip. That's why your arrangement automations could get greyed out.

Hope it helps
Piet

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