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Name/Version: Nord Lead 2X Remote 1.3
Author: Protonica  
Description: INTRODUCTION
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Inspired by the "Total Integration" feature of Access Virus I asked myself how to transfer this idea to other hardware synths. Combining the high quality sound of hardware synths with Ableton's production studio capabilities. Easy automation, modulation, getting access to hidden parameters, importing/exporting of patches and remembering of all settings in a project are now possible with the Nord Lead 2X remote. On top of it it runs with very low CPU usage. A lot of plug-ins try to simulate a certain hardware device, but it's never 100% the same sound and uses in many cases too much of the processing power. So integration is a nice way to use your hardware (again) and (re)discover it's beautiful sound.

KEY FEATURES
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Here is an overview of what the Nord Lead 2X remote can do:
+ Connect your Nord Lead/Rack 2X directly into Ableton Live
+ Edit all sound parameters of your synth from the plug-in
+ Load and save patches in Ableton
+ Import & Export patches from/to your Nord Lead hardware (SysEx Bridge required, see below)
+ Automation & modulation of all sound parameters
+ View and edit all Morph/Velocity parameters (SysEx Bridge required, see below)
+ Use up to 4 Layers for multi-sequencing or stacking (you have to load and route 4 instances to different MIDI tracks)
+ If you edit any knob from your Nord Lead hardware, you can see it moving directly from the plugin
+ Send patches from the plugin to your synthesizers edit buffer and save them from there
+ Total recall: when you open the project with the plugin, all the parameters are automatically sent to the Nord Lead hardware
+ Randomize your patches to find freaky sounds and new ideas
+ Access to the "Secret" filter type (Notch)
+ Low CPU usage

SYSEX BRIDGE DOWNLOAD:
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http://www.protonica.de/piet/nordleadsysexbridge.zip

SETUP
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1. Download and unzip the "Nord Lead 2X SysEx Bridge": http://www.protonica.de/piet/nordleadsysexbridge.zip
2. Download and install Max Runtime (free) for the SysEx Bridge: http://cycling74.com/downloads/runtime
3. Open the "Nord Lead 2X SysEx Bridge.maxpat" with Max Runtime and select the MIDI Ports your Nord Lead 2X hardware is connected to
4. Drop "Nord Lead 2X by Protonica.amxd" on a MIDI track in Ableton Live
5. Drop an "External Instrument" to the right of the Nord Lead 2X remote. Set the MIDI and Audio routings according to your setup
6. If you want to use the 4 Layers of the Nord Lead create 4 MIDI tracks and repeat instructions 4. and 5. (check the MIDI Channels aswell)
7. Settings on your hardware:
- Connect 2 MIDI cables to the MIDI Input and MIDI Output from the Nord to your Audio/MIDI Interface
- Global MIDI Channel: 16
- MIDI Channels of the Layers (ABCD) must be the same as set in the "External Instruments"
- Program Change: On
- Control Change: On
- Local Control: Off (to avoid glitches)

KNOWN BUGS
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1. Problem: When you open a very large project in Ableton Live patches are occasionally not transferred correctly.
1. Solution/Workaround: Close the project without saving (but keep Ableton running: load a new project) and open it again.


VERSION HISTORY
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1.1 New Nord Lead 2X GUI
1.2 Added Program/Bank Change incl. "Send" button to send all current controllers to the Nord Lead 2X
1.3 Major Update: Import/Export Patches (SysEx Dump), Layer, Velocity/Morph, Randomize, Mouse-over infos

REQUIREMENTS
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+ Clavia Nord Lead 2X or Clavia Nord Rack 2X
+ Ableton Live with Max for Live
+ Mac or PC


Developed by Piet Kaempfer (Protonica) in Berlin.
 

Device Details

Downloads: 1303
Tags utility, hardware
Live Version Used: 9.0.4
Max Version Used: 6.1.2
Date Added: Sep 10 2013 09:31:32
Date Last Updated: Jun 15 2014 17:59:30
Average Rating (1) 5
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Device Type: midi_device
URL (optional): http://www.protonica.de
License (more info): AttributionNonCommercialNoDerivatives

Device Files

Device File: Nord Lead 2X by Protonica.amxd
 


Comments

does this one work also with the Nord1 rack?

I don't have a Nord Lead 1 here to test. I guess most of the parameters should work with a Nord Lead/Rack 1 or 2 too (like Cutoff, Reso...). But when it comes to waveform selection, lfo destination etc. it can work different. Anyway i can easily make another device for Nord Lead 1 for sure, but would need a kind of bug report to see what i need to change.

It works.. awesome! Thanks for creating this.
Just missing a tab or something to scroll through the presets.

Now you are able to easily scroll through the bank and presets! Check Version 1.2 ;)

Fan of Protonica ! :)

@ Angelique http://www.facebook.com/protonica.de :)

any way you can make one for the nord lead 4?!?! @protonica I would love you forever

@ryancollins yes, as soon as i own one i will do it.

Hello protonica,

this is just amazing!!!
I have a nord lead 2 and I will test it as soon as I will eb home...ever had any chance of testing it yourself?

I will report back

thank you for sharing this!!!

Hello protonica,

this is just amazing!!!
I have a nord lead 2 and I will test it as soon as I will eb home...ever had any chance of testing it yourself?

I will report back

thank you for sharing this!!!

Hello protonica,

this is just amazing!!!
I have a nord lead 2 and I will test it as soon as I will eb home...ever had any chance of testing it yourself?

I will report back

thank you for sharing this!!!

Hello protonica,

this is just amazing!!!
I have a nord lead 2 and I will test it as soon as I will eb home...ever had any chance of testing it yourself?

I will report back

thank you for sharing this!!!

just stumbled across this, got my nordrack 2 out of its box, and rediscovered this beautiful synth! Works great!!! It's fantastically integrated in Live now.
I need some more time with it, to see how automation will work out, but for sound design it's perfect.

Something else I'll look into next time, is the preset browsing. You see, I have a PCMCIA memory card, which has quite some presets I'd like to audition again, and this setup won't allow me to browse to these banks. maybe disconnection a midi connection to the nordrack could solve this (temporarily, to get to the presets). I just made a percussion set, tried to save it to the memory card, but couldn't. As soon as you reach the last preset of the internal memory, you go back to 001. Luckily, saving the presets for the M4L device seems to work great, and probably has it's advantages.

So far, the only little thing is the preset handling on the M4L device itself. It seems you can only click through the presets instead of click/holding and scrolling through the list. Maybe I need to get more used to Push (which works fantastic with this editor, too), and the nordrack itself as well. So, not important at all for me...

Thanks a lot, Piet! Great stuff!!!

@borg thanks for your feedback!
you can scroll through the presets by moving the mouse (left click and hold) over the preset number field. Or type in the desired program number. If u have problems with the program up/down buttons you can try to use "Local on" mode on your synth. this m4l device is tested only for nord lead 2x (which don't uses pcmcia cards anymore)!

I would pay for a Lead 3 version of this! Any chance of developing one? Thanks!

Is this possible to convert this into a VST plug-in to use it in Cubase?

Cool, but... my reKon audio VST-AU Lead 2 Editor (http://rekonaudio.com) software already does all this, and it works in all the major VST/AU based DAW hosts out there. It also does not require M4L when used in Live. Yours only works with M4L and Live. Of course, yours is free though. So, that's a bonus for M4L + Lead 2x users I suppose, and it is kind of you to have shared your work.

Also, be prepared to deal with the Clavia Music litigation team for using the actual Nord Lead logo. I went through hell with Clavia just over the name of the editor (I originally named mine the VST Nord Lead Editor without using their logo) and they contacted me about it to change it. I also had similar issues with Access Music when I released the VST Virus Editor back in 2006. Be very careful that the graphics and names you use on your products are not already used or protected by copyright laws!

Cheers,
lanrosta

yes, i even bought the rekon lead editor first. but to be honest the handling for me was not as good as i thought. morphing, mouse behaviour, setup etc. thats why i build this m4l device for the lead2x.

yes, i even bought the rekon lead editor first. but to be honest the handling for me was not as good as i thought. morphing, mouse behaviour, setup etc. thats why i build this m4l device for the lead2x.

Hi
thanks very much for sharing this device!
I try to use it with my Nord Lead 2 on a Windows 7 64 PC and I can't seem to get the sysex transfer to work. If I select the MIDI devices in the Max sysex bridge patch I cannot use them in Live anymore and vice versa.
Do I have to use a MIDI loopback device or something to be able to dump sounds from and to my Nord?
Best regards and thanks again.
bassmatiker

bassmatiker, this is a strange behaviour. it must work with every midi interface (sysex and simple midi at the same time). make sure to connect both midi in and out. also check the midi i/o settings on the ableton preferences.

Thank you. I have already checked the settings multiple times, updated Max and so on, but still no luck. Can someone confirm the sysex dump functionality is working with Nord Lead 2 (not 2x) on a Windows 7 PC? Maybe the dump request commands differ slightly?
With another MIDI interface device I own (NI Komplete 6) the strange behaviour of exclusive availability of MIDI ports does not appear, so this does not seem to cause the problem.
The MIDI IN signal is received in the sysex bridge as well as in Live.
Is the MIDI Out Signal control in the sysex bridge supposed to flash when I move your controller's buttons? Because it does never ever flash.
Thanks very much.
bassmatiker

Hey Guys!

I'm sorry if this is a noob question.. but does this work like a VST-Plugin in Ableton? Can i drop audio effects and so on? Like i do with Sylenth etc? Sorry if this information is here somewhere, couldn't find it.

Best,
Olkan

Hey Guys!

I'm sorry if this is a noob question.. but does this work like a VST-Plugin in Ableton? Can i drop audio effects and so on? Like i do with Sylenth etc? Sorry if this information is here somewhere, couldn't find it.

Best,
Olkan

Hey Guys!

I'm sorry if this is a noob question.. but does this work like a VST-Plugin in Ableton? Can i drop audio effects and so on? Like i do with Sylenth etc? Sorry if this information is here somewhere, couldn't find it.

Best,
Olkan

Hi Piet

I am having the same issues as Bassmatiker with Nord Lead 2 keyboard, on Mac Ableton 9.1

SysEx bridge will see a signal in the MIDI input and flash but nothing on the MIDI output, so the SysEx dump in the max for live device does not work in either direction, it just changes all parameters to zero.

I would love to be able to get this to work so I an save patches in Live, any help appreciated!

Thanks

Hi Apeks,

The MIDI Output Signal from the SysEx Bridge must flash on every dump (Send & Get/Request) you make from the plug-in. Even if a NordLead is not connected.
I build this plug-in for a NordLead 2X which has some minor differences to the NordLead 2. Sending a patch from the Plugin to the NordLead 2 could work.
Receiving a patch from the NordLead 2 (Patch Dump Request) via the plugin could work maybe if you change a code in the plugin: Open the plugin in Max4Live, unfreeze it, go to Patch Mode, find the info box called "Patch Dump Request 14 (Edit Buffer) 0-3 (Slot A-D)", double click on "pack 240 51 15 4 14 0 247" and type in "pack 240 51 15 4 0 0 247", than save it and quit max4live and Ableton. (not sure if it works! just an idea because the MIDI Implementation in the manual from Clavia was incorrect in this case).

In general I only can give the advice to try the plugin with a NordLead 2X only.

Cheers
Piet

Hi Apeks,

The MIDI Output Signal from the SysEx Bridge must flash on every dump (Send & Get/Request) you make from the plug-in. Even if a NordLead is not connected.
I build this plug-in for a NordLead 2X which has some minor differences to the NordLead 2. Sending a patch from the Plugin to the NordLead 2 could work.
Receiving a patch from the NordLead 2 (Patch Dump Request) via the plugin could work maybe if you change a code in the plugin: Open the plugin in Max4Live, unfreeze it, go to Patch Mode, find the info box called "Patch Dump Request 14 (Edit Buffer) 0-3 (Slot A-D)", double click on "pack 240 51 15 4 14 0 247" and type in "pack 240 51 15 4 0 0 247", than save it and quit max4live and Ableton. (not sure if it works! just an idea because the MIDI Implementation in the manual from Clavia was incorrect in this case).

In general I only can give the advice to try the plugin with a NordLead 2X only.

Cheers
Piet

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.

I've just had a breakthrough - i sent the dump from the actual keyboard rather than clicking the button on the max for live editor and it worked!

Thanks again for creating this device - its really helpful to see what some of the hidden parameters are and so useful for saving patches!

Hopefully this will work for anyone else with a Lead 2 rather than 2x

does it works with NL2?

A great device! Very well done.

Regarding the SysEx bridge "occupying" the MIDI device:
I can get it to work with my Scarlett 6i6, but not with the Elektron TM-1. Maybe there's a "multi-client" issue with the MIDI ports ?


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