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Devices by OCH

och.lockdevice2push2 Version 1.1
och.scorestream Version 0.8.1
och.p2-savelive Version 1.0
och.MIDILHL Version 1.0.5
och.dobrian.quadpan Version 1.0
och.binaural-quadpreview Version 0.2
och.EQ8FreqMIDICtrl Version 1.2
och.MIDI2Freq Version 1.1
och.assistant-voice-lite Version 1.0
500 channel mixing by OCH Version 1.0
och.smartlight Version 1.2
och.trackAudioTo Version 0.2
Chiptune OSC Version 1.0

Total Downloads: 3

Comments by OCH


probably no one cares about this anymore, but i need to remove the place where I hosted the file I shared back in 2018 on this thread. So, I moved it here now:
apologies for any possible redundancy

probably no one cares about this anymore, but i need to remove the place where I hosted the file I shared back in 2018 on this thread. So, I moved it here now:
apologies for the redundancy, but in the rare occasion people want to look back, at least there's that.

this is the best device video preview i've seen lately. intense. how did you do the smooth 3d screen recording?

Hi @khron1k,
Thank you for your message! Unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce that bug yet. Can you please clarify what version of Ableton, Max, and OS, that you are using? (for the record, I am running latest live 11 on intel mac 10.15 with latest max, non-bundled version). You can also drop me a line through the form linked at the bottom of the device page.

@0m you need to wait for the new version :)

@11olsen excited about it!

Happy to work on updates for push 3, on this and other devices. if anyone is able to send me a push 3 😀

@fantismo @borismaschmeyer
If you read the User_Guide you'll see that he mentions that currently the device does not save the custom location.

I've never seen that message.
Just a wild guess here: are you using a version of Live that has Max for Live? (either Live standard + Max for Live, or Live Suite). Can you somehow share screenshot with that error message?


Are you on windows?
The initial filepath is created with the message "mkdir ~/Music/Ableton/User\\ Library/Thresho", that I am afraid might not directly work on windows.

I was about to chime in with an update myself but I can see that @rossfromfriends has already several things in place to try to address the limitations reported. So, it does seem like they have planned working on it. If they don't reply and @borismaschmeyer confirms the path problem is on windows, I can still chime in at least to try to address that.

It will take me at least until mid-late July before I can revamp this. In the meantime if you'd like to explain your setup and what is it that you are trying to do, I could have that in mind for when I rework on this. Thanks.

cat likes this... like, a lot.

"Let's not overthink this"
yeah right..
"sometimes when I have an idea — and almost always my DUMBEST ideas — I have to see if it is possible."
sounds like a very familiar overthinking process to me xD
welcome to the club rofl

nice job on this one ;)

It does work with Live 11. Having that said, the first time I opened it on Live 11 it was not working, but when I clicked the edit with Max button it started working fine. I think I had changed audio device output and/or sample rate after loading it, and that confused it somehow (?). But actually I'm not sure, because since then I have not been able to reproduce the bug :/

just saw the video.
very nice :)

@SENM super!

your logo image is so nice :)

This is an old device and needs some updates some day.
In the meantime, there is a link to a form at the end of the gumroad page.
Submit that and we'll get in direct contact, and I'll fix it for you.
Thank you for your patience and support.

welcome to c1b2w3!

So, regular max objects are not so easy to get mapped.
Here is an interesting workaround, to keep your design:

Also, 500 sample delay, is 500 sample delay. No matter if at 44.1 or 48kHz. The delay object that you used only state that the maximum delay they can handle is 44100 samples, they are not tied to the sampling rate per se ;)

happy (SAFE) holidays

you said, "new in version 4"... but the file is "Dublo WaveScope 3.1 (1).amxd" is that right?

cool :)

omg love the name - haha.
though, I'll admit that when I first saw it, my mind went elsewhere...

welcome to! :)

looking forward to seeing your next device.

Here's some suggestions:
- reverse the order of the instruction "Map the the MAP ME button to the envelope follower" to "Map the envelope follower to the MAP ME button", because at first it seems like that button is a map button.
- get rid of the @popup 1 on that print message. It makes a weird artifact where the popup messages will appear if you have other track selected.
- make it an audio device, since it is supposed to always live after the envelope follower?
- fix the fact that the floating video window is always on
- and specially fix the fact that pressing 'esc' goes to fullscreen, and pressing 'esc' again makes the floating window not fullscreen but the size of the screen and in front on Abes. Which is a problem because... you can't close this floating window!

Even if only to share some of your artistic where you use this device, a video would be nice :)


There was an error in there. Sorrty.
I've re-uppladed. same link


By default it behaves like original version.
But if you click "crossfade" button it will turn into "custom" and allow you to map this to any other mappable live parameter.

Also, I am just now seeing your request from earlier this year. I can add that crossfade reverse feature.

Here try this one:


Cool device!
And very handy.
I took the liberty to give it an update:

Oh no! Let me investigate.
Can you drop me an email? There is a link on the device page.

haha, thx @chapelierfou. I'd love to hear the wacky stuff ppl will do with it.


"I would love to see a version that uses the Sampler device. I would pay for that! :)"
"That would all be no problem if ableton provides a way to assign samples to their devices without using drag n' drop or hotswap. That would open up a lot of possibillities for experimental sample management."

I really want to be able to do that! load samples to simpler, sampler, and wavetable...

wait... are you telling me you can simply control python using native n4m?
terrific project, btw.

Here ya go:

update :)

Thanks, I already had a note on the device page saying that it has a dependency on other max externals. I've rewritten that portion in order to be more clear. I'm also adding a sample live set in the next update. You should receive it via email.

very nice, indeed.

Crazy stuff. Can you make it so that it opens on a floating window?
Because I need to open it in max to be able to start it.

very nice

good idea

nice. looking forward to try it.

@esolo @5at19

Here ya go:

> any chance to get the device again? It's deleted from dropbox :-(


could you please point me to your actual place holder recording?
It sounds very good :)

is it a 3001 audio book?

47.24ms is the shortest you can make.
Use Shift + drag ;)

As I've posted on the other device's page:
Check this out:
Happy Late Xmas xD

Check this out:

update :)

P.S. I've noticed you mentioning somewhere that you were using a custom version of, but I don't think it was included in your frozen patch.
In any case, my quick hack might do the job.
Best, OCH


I hear you. Changing a preset, i.e. shift clicking it, will not persist after the session is reloaded. Here is my fix:

Update ;)

Like this:

update :)


You need Live Suite 10.0.4 and up in order to be able to change settings to use official Max 8 version instead of bundled version.

No. You need Ableton Live Suite 10.0.4+ and official Max 8. You can download and install Max 8 from cycling74 website for free but, if you open it, you can't save anything. Now, since Ableton Live Suite includes MaxForLive, when you open the devices in the Max 8 editor (again, via Ableton Live), you can edit those patches and save them. Right now official Live version is 10.0.5, and beta version is 10.0.6b3.

Please do release win 10 version soon :)

Right now it only works for the encoders.
For example, it allows you to be able to play with the keyboard layout on a midi track that is sending midi to a vst sitting on another audio track.
But I think I understand what you are asking for, and I'll try to take a look at that option as well.