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Name/Version: Push-ArrangeMode 1.1
Author: Crampe  
Description: NOW WORKS WITH PUSH2 ALSO!!

This device gives your Push its missing Arrangement Mode (plus a few extra bonuses).
It doesn't interfere with other Push's modes, it just adds a new one.
The device mainly works on a "selected track" basis. Ultimately, the main goal of this patch is to use your mouse less, because for a lot of tasks this thing actually is... quite slow.
You'll need at least Live 9.1.3 and Max 6.1.7 if you want everything functions of this device to work as excpected.

So, what does this device do (that means nothing is removed from Push's default behaviour) ? :
- Solo, mute arm the selected track, and unsolo, unmute and unarm all the tracks.
- Zoom tracks vertically, navigate between them, and zoom the arrangement horizontally.
- There's also a button to open/close the tracks (that's an alternative to the vertical zoom).
- Adds an option to activate/deactivate a clip and turn on/off its warp form the Clip mode.
- Close and focus the various part of Live's window (like the Browser, the detail clip/device view...)
- Control the Global Record with the record button (why this one is not in the default factory Push script is a serious odditie !)
- Navigate the Arrangement with markers.
- Control the loop and punch in/out section.
- Control the draw mode.
- Control the "follow playback".
- For some reasons it also makes recording audio, midi and automations in Arrangement problem free (lots of people seems to encounter some problems with this when using the default Push script.)
- Plus, you can also map some of these functions to your computer keyboard or to an other midi device.

You enter ArrangeMode with the SHIFT+SESSION buttons combination. Pressing only SESSION will bo to the default session view/mode.



 

Device Details

Tags utility, hardware, push
Live Version Used: 9.1.3
Max Version Used: 6.1.7
Date Added: Jul 31 2014 09:30:04
Date Last Updated: Nov 08 2015 13:23:09
Device Type: audio_device
Download URL (report link) https://gumroad.com/l/uFGU
License (more info): AttributionNonCommercialNoDerivatives


Comments

have you heared of Push-PXT Plus??

Does your device display the current transport position anywhere on the push readout? This seems to be missing in over scripts, but seems mandatory for me. To me the reason I love push is that I have monitor turned completely off. Using push for arrangement editing would require such a read out.

Hi Oddeo,
No, but I could add that quite easily. The thing is: you won't be able to edit in arrangement without your screen even if you had this timing information display. That would be a huge step backward in music creation/production ! That doesn't make a lot of sense IMHO. Push is way better that using any other controller or you mouse+keyboard to play with the session view, which is a kind of an "instrument" view. The arrangement is here to edit,arrange... and things that hugely benefit from a screen.
The idea of my device is to be able to leave the mouse + keyboard as more as possible in arrangement and use Push instead. But the screen is unbeatable for arrangement !

Hi Crampe,

Thank you for the reply. I both agree with you and disagree with you.

There is still something in me that enjoys some aspect of the way I had to arrange using my old Korg Triton (maybe I am crazy). But I love being able to turn on the monitor, use my mouse and make fine adjustments for micro edit stuff.

I would love to see clips showing up horizontally in the arrangement view like they do vertically in the session view. As the arrangement plays, they scroll. You select a clip and hit duplicate it duplicates horizontally. You select a clip and hit delete, it deletes it. Etc etc. I think you get the idea.

I love the idea of not monitor for 80% of the work and being able to go over to the monitor and mouse when you really need to do some micro work or do some quick drag and drop.

I can dream. Either way, thanks for the reply.

Hi Crampe,

Thank you for the reply. I both agree with you and disagree with you.

There is still something in me that enjoys some aspect of the way I had to arrange using my old Korg Triton (maybe I am crazy). But I love being able to turn on the monitor, use my mouse and make fine adjustments for micro edit stuff.

I would love to see clips showing up horizontally in the arrangement view like they do vertically in the session view. As the arrangement plays, they scroll. You select a clip and hit duplicate it duplicates horizontally. You select a clip and hit delete, it deletes it. Etc etc. I think you get the idea.

I love the idea of not monitor for 80% of the work and being able to go over to the monitor and mouse when you really need to do some micro work or do some quick drag and drop.

I can dream. Either way, thanks for the reply.

Also, I am curious. Does your version have any feature that PXT-Live does not have? I'm not trying to pin you two against each other,but I would be curious as to pros and cons of each.

Hi Crampe,

I just bought this device but having an issue.

I have added the device to my master channel and saved it to my default template.

The Issue is that the i need to click on the "init. patch" button on the device each time I load the template before the device will start working.

Is there any way to set it up that its active every time the template is loaded?

Thanks...

Yes it needs initialising every time the set is opened and it also un-mutes any muted channels so it is a bit time-consuming when I open it.
It is very useful apart from that, thanks very much.

Yes it needs initialising every time the set is opened and it also un-mutes any muted channels so it is a bit time-consuming when I open it.
It is very useful apart from that, thanks very much.

PS I can see no Arrange mode features in PXT.

Hi Crampe,

I would love it if some if all the buttons you have assigned were lit! I'm having a hard time remembering them, is it possible?
Also, scrubbing the timeline-what does it do? I was hoping it would start from where you leave it but it doesn't seem to work.
I am loving using your device though, I am writing songs using it and hardly touching the stupid mouse!

Hi Crampe,

thanks for your great device, it really helps so much!
I have a problem since a few weeks, that can only be resolved by erasing the Pusharrangemode from my sets:
Every time i re-open a set with the pusharrangemode in the master channel all the tracks, also the ones that were muted, are unmuted again. That makes things sometimes a bit complicated, when working with a lot of tracks.

Can you change that behaviour?

Thanks

Cosmo

Great work, love the device.

I recently got Isotonik Studios' PrEditor and I guess since it uses a separate remote script, Push-ArrangeMode doesn't work with it.

I don't know if you plan on supporting it but along with Push-Arrange they are the best 2 add ons for the Push. It would be great if they worked together.


Keep up the great work,
Thanks

Hello,
thanks for the update.
I have a push 2 now, but since the layout of the push has changed lots of the keystrokes dont work anymore for me.
I cant even turn the device on and off.
Can you post a layout for the push 2, please?
In the update info there was only one for the push 1.

Thanks so much

I bought this device and it does not work on Push 2 in Live 9.7.1 and Max for Live 7.3.1. Compatibility with Push 2 and 9.7 is claimed but there is no Push 2 layout provided in the documentation and when I load the device into the Master channel and push Shift+Session nothing happens. There is no support email contact info provided for the developer on the Max 4 Live website so there is no way to contact the developer. I am filing a claim for a refund through PayPal because of this. Buyer beware!

Dang, was looking to get this, but bummed to hear it's not working with the latest version of Live! Any update from the developer??

Btw, here is his email address (taken from his website: http://www.tete-de-son.com/): Contact [at] tete-de-son [dot] com

I just emailed him asking for if he plans to update the device. Will report back any findings.

The device is working. There was an issue due to a stupid mistake of mine in the latest update of the device, but it's all fixed now.
People never come back to say "yeah it's fixed", because we usually talk through emails.

Very nice! Looking forward to checking it out. Thanks for the email @Crampe!

@Crampe -

Just tested it out on Push 2 running Live 9.7.1 & Max 7.3.1 on Mac OS X 10.11.6 and **mostly* everything works, with a few issues. Figured I'd just post it here so everyone else can be in the loop as well.

Here is an image of most of what I'll summarize below: http://i.imgur.com/jjgo3Py.jpg

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- Metronome knob controls horizontal zoom

- To set Global Quantization, you need to use SELECT + TEMPO knob, not SHIFT + TEMPO

- Fixed Length button is not Momentary Engage "Draw Mode" - it's Loop Toggle On/Off

- Duplicate doesn't actually do anything

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Overall, it's a really handy little device. Thanks @Crampe for all the hard work you put into this! If we can just get these last few things fixed I think we'll be in good shape.

Oh yeah, and one last thing @Crampe -

Is there a way to select different clips in Arrangement View? The toggle clip on/off works, but only if I've click a click first. There doesn't seem to be a way to select individual clips. Am I missing something?

Hi @Crampe ,

I recently purchased this device and absolutely love it! I mostly work in arrange mode and it makes my Push2 so much more useful.

Question:
Are you still planning on updating it?

If so I was wondering if it was possible to have the arrow button step through the tracks by pushing left and right just like in session mode. Currently they are only dimly lit and do nothing on my push.

Also would it be possible to map the kill functions (mute, solo, arm) to dedicated pads on the push?

Thanks and keep up the great work!

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